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ahpuiahsan
13-Feb 2009 Friday 10:02 PM (5570 days ago)               #1
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Is citibank and AIG a good buy now for long term investment?



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15-Feb 2009 Sunday 1:23 AM (5569 days ago)            #2
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No it is not time to buy.

I am looking at these stocks as well.

Symbol AIG & C.

Whats your entry point or price you are looking at?







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15-Feb 2009 Sunday 8:18 PM (5568 days ago)            #3
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quote originally posted by Beri Heng Fan:

No it is not time to buy.

I am looking at these stocks as well.

Symbol AIG & C.

Whats your entry point or price you are looking at?



US Market is very volatile, especially so in this bad times. However it is also a good entry point for long term investment, 2-3 years. I am sure the price will rebounce to at least 30% (conservative calculation) of the highs. If for long term investment, i will start accumulating now as long as i have spare $$$$. Remember stock market move 6 months in advance.

Citibank - 52 Week low US2.80, 52 week High US27.35
Highest level (2007) US60.61

AIG - 52 Week low US0.85, 52 week High US52.25
Highest level (2000) US96.21



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I am timing the market.

Not many agree to what I am doing.

US market is close today.

AIG entry point less than $0.60
Citibank entry point less than $2.20.

This prices may be true when US agree they are in depression.

Not many americans agreed they were in recession when Singaapore was in a technical recession.

So a depression should first start in Singapore.

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19-Feb 2009 Thursday 8:56 PM (5564 days ago)            #5
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quote originally posted by Beri Heng Fan:

I am timing the market.

Not many agree to what I am doing.

US market is close today.

AIG entry point less than $0.60
Citibank entry point less than $2.20.

This prices may be true when US agree they are in depression.

Not many americans agreed they were in recession when Singaapore was in a technical recession.

So a depression should first start in Singapore.



Once the support of DOW break 7500 points, your target may be reached.
I am preparing my bullets.

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19-Feb 2009 Thursday 8:57 PM (5564 days ago)            #6
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quote originally posted by Beri Heng Fan:

I am timing the market.

Not many agree to what I am doing.

US market is close today.

AIG entry point less than $0.60
Citibank entry point less than $2.20.

This prices may be true when US agree they are in depression.

Not many americans agreed they were in recession when Singaapore was in a technical recession.

So a depression should first start in Singapore.



Wow, Citibank hit USD1.94 and AIG USD0.50 due to fear of Bank Nationalization.

I went in and grab some at USD2.02 and USD0.55 for long term investment.

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This message was edited by ahpuiahsan on 20-Feb-2009 @ 11:40 PM



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21-Feb 2009 Saturday 12:35 AM (5563 days ago)            #7
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Keep it simple.

Trade your system.

Watch the charts.

Don't have an opinion on "others"

Stay within your rules.

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21-Feb 2009 Saturday 10:45 AM (5562 days ago)            #8
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If last night whole night watch the market, should able to grab at even more cheaper price.

Citibank last night low USD1.61, close normal hour at USD1.95, close after extended hour at USD2.20

AIG last night low USD0.49, close normal hour at USD0.54, close after extended hour at USD0.56



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21-Feb 2009 Saturday 1:31 PM (5562 days ago)            #9
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I think the question to consider - is Citigroup or BOA to be nationalised. That may wipe out all of shareholders' value.

You can take an alternative view to look at US Bancorp which if I remember is at $9 odd.

Or look at Pfizer, which focuses on formulating cancer-improvement drugs. It's meant to be a growth stock by in nature if their R&D pharma capabilities result in breakthrough medical research for effective cures. Now Pfizer is also trading at lo price.





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quote originally posted by cookieguy:

I think the question to consider - is Citigroup or BOA to be nationalised. That may wipe out all of shareholders' value.

You can take an alternative view to look at US Bancorp which if I remember is at $9 odd.

Or look at Pfizer, which focuses on formulating cancer-improvement drugs. It's meant to be a growth stock by in nature if their R&D pharma capabilities result in breakthrough medical research for effective cures. Now Pfizer is also trading at lo price.



The White House and Treasury has come out and denied the nationalisation of the Banks. If they lied, then worst will come.

Quote from CNBC:
The White House and Treasury Department late Friday sought to shoot down persistent rumors Citibank and Bank of America are about to become wholly owned subsidiaries of Uncle Sam.

The White House said it strongly believed in a privately held bank system, after rumors that the U.S. government could nationalize banks saw shares in Bank of America [BAC 3.79 -0.14 (-3.56%) ] and Citigroup [C 1.95 -0.56 (-22.31%) ] plummet to shares fall to fresh lows.



"Let me reassure as best I can on banks," White House spokesman Robert Gibbs told a news conference.

"This administration continues to strongly believe that a privately held banking system is the correct way to go, ensuring they are regulated sufficiently by this government. That's been our belief for quite some time and we continue to have that."

The White House spokesman's comments helped lift U.S. stocks from their lows of the day, traders said. The Nasdaq Composite index briefly turned positive, and the Dow Jones industrial average and Standard & Poor's 500 index both cut deep losses.

Separately, Treasury spokesman Isaac Baker said in a prepared statement that there are rumors in the market, but they should not be regarded as an indication of the administration's policy.

"As Secretary (Timothy) Geithner has said, we will preserve a financial system that is owned and managed by the private sector," Baker said.

Earlier Friday, executives at both Citigroup and Bank of America both said they are not in danger of nationalization. But the comments did little to soothe markets.

BofA CEO Ken Lewis attributed speculation about the government taking over his institution to a "lack of understanding" regarding the company's operations.

"Our company continues to be profitable," Lewis said in a statement. "We see no reason why a company that is profitable with strong levels of capital and liquidity and that continues to lend actively should be considered for nationalization.

Investors dumped shares in droves Friday, sending shares tumbling about 20 percent. The stocks had been weak, but sunk lower after statements from Sen. Christopher Dodd indicating that while the government would prefer to avoid it, nationalizing some banks was a possibility.

Still, Lewis held resolute about his bank's position.

"Speculation about nationalization is based on a lack of understanding of our bank's financial position as well as a lack of appreciation for the adverse ramifications for our customers and the economy," he said.

Meanwhile, two sources close to Citi said the bank has not held talks with the U.S. government about nationalization.

The U.S. Treasury has not disclosed much more to Citigroup than it has to the broader public about its plans for the banking sector, the people said.





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Are the finacials in the US going to socialism next?

Are rumors setting in on nationalism?

Looks like its working buddy.







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25-Feb 2009 Wednesday 11:51 PM (5558 days ago)            #12
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Gasp

AIG and C?

Any chart forecast you are looking at?

Any golden opportunities?

I got butterflies in my stomach.

Lol.

Playful

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quote originally posted by Beri Heng Fan:

AIG and C?

Any chart forecast you are looking at?

Any golden opportunities?

I got butterflies in my stomach.

Lol.



This message was edited by Beri Heng Fan on 25-Feb-2009 @ 11:56 PM



No balls for the trade.

Just sold.

Small profit.





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28-Feb 2009 Saturday 12:14 AM (5556 days ago)            #14
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quote originally posted by Beri Heng Fan:

No balls for the trade.

Just sold.

Small profit.



Glad that you have make some profit.
I am for long term investment. Even if the Govt is gonna nationalize Citi, which i hope not, the loss is smaller than the gain if any.



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28-Feb 2009 Saturday 12:38 AM (5556 days ago)            #15
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quote originally posted by Beri Heng Fan:

Keep it simple.

Trade your system.

Watch the charts.

Don't have an opinion on "others"

Stay within your rules.




Where is anything when I need one bro?

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28-Feb 2009 Saturday 12:39 AM (5556 days ago)            #16
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quote originally posted by Beri Heng Fan:

Keep it simple.

Trade your system.

Watch the charts.

Don't have an opinion on "others"

Stay within your rules.




Where is anything when I need one bro?

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28-Feb 2009 Saturday 12:42 AM (5556 days ago)            #17
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Perhaps when the dow hits 5000?

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quote originally posted by ahpuiahsan:

Glad that you have make some profit.
I am for long term investment. Even if the Govt is gonna nationalize Citi, which i hope not, the loss is smaller than the gain if any.




Looks like I can buy chicken rice for 3 famalies.

Consisting of 4 as a family'

Oh 5 including the maid.



Never mind about Ship mostly absent with apologies in the end.

Lol.



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Citibank tumble to another new low at USD1.40 yesterday before closing at USD1.50, while AIG went down to USD0.41 before closing at USD0.42.
Blush

the question now is how low both willl go. Scared



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I've pick up some Citi shares for my retire fund.
When in two times to buy 500 shares. Prepare to keep for more than 3 to 10 years


My reason to buy
1)US wont nationalise bank as the world esp China will be the first to laugh until pants drop.
2)GIC and Kuwait gov sinks deeply into the banks and now have to agree with US govt to convert pefer notes into shares. Dont convert also die as cancel 7% interest. Therefore I dont think US gov would let citi 'die' easily.
3)I've brought the shares much more cheaper than GIC. LOL

I'm just a normal original singaporean, visiting spools for 4D, TOTO n football every week.



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quote originally posted by C810:

I've pick up some Citi shares for my retire fund.
When in two times to buy 500 shares. Prepare to keep for more than 3 to 10 years


My reason to buy
1)US wont nationalise bank as the world esp China will be the first to laugh until pants drop.
2)GIC and Kuwait gov sinks deeply into the banks and now have to agree with US govt to convert pefer notes into shares. Dont convert also die as cancel 7% interest. Therefore I dont think US gov would let citi 'die' easily.
3)I've brought the shares much more cheaper than GIC. LOL

I'm just a normal original singaporean, visiting spools for 4D, TOTO n football every week.




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02-Mar 2009 Monday 11:06 PM (5553 days ago)            #22
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quote originally posted by ahpuiahsan:

Citibank tumble to another new low at USD1.40 yesterday before closing at USD1.50, while AIG went down to USD0.41 before closing at USD0.42.


the question now is how low both willl go.




VIX currently stands at 48.53

52 week low 15.82

52 week high 89.53

Still a long way to go.

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quote originally posted by Beri Heng Fan:

VIX currently stands at 48.53

52 week low 15.82

52 week high 89.53

Still a long way to go.



Citi went to new low USD1.15 before closing USD1.20
AIG went to USD0.38 before closing at USD0.42

Scared

Even OCBC is more expensive than Citibank based on today closing price. Evil Grin



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03-Mar 2009 Tuesday 9:09 PM (5552 days ago)            #24
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Kindly understand to all readers.

VIX is a measure of fear.

The higher it goes the market is fearful.

The lower it goes the more confident it is.

Smile

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Warren Buffet once said " One of the lessons that investors seem to have to learn over and over again, and will again in the future, is that not only can you not turn a toad into a prince by kissing it, but you cannot turn a toad into a prince by repackaging it." haha. well



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quote originally posted by Smart_Punter:

Warren Buffet once said " One of the lessons that investors seem to have to learn over and over again, and will again in the future, is that not only can you not turn a toad into a prince by kissing it, but you cannot turn a toad into a prince by repackaging it." haha. well




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Ai yo yo.......

going down again?

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quote originally posted by Beri Heng Fan:

Ai yo yo.......

going down again?



Ai yo yo, big sale har....

Citibank went down to beyond USD1.00 last night to USD0.97 and close and USD1.02

AIG went to USD0.33 and close at USD0.35

let's see how they do tonight.....



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quote originally posted by ahpuiahsan:

Ai yo yo, big sale har....

Citibank went down to beyond USD1.00 last night to USD0.97 and close and USD1.02

AIG went to USD0.33 and close at USD0.35

let's see how they do tonight.....




just go in cautiously if you want Smile cookie, an investor fundamentalist also join in the fun Smile hahaa...why not at such lo price. Citibank should not collapse, US govt will not allow that.

of course i not using any fundamental analysis or intrinsic biz studies to explore Citigroup, is more like risk-reward, cheaper cost & ermm...a little amount of speculation with projection i believe 10 yrs down the road, i will not see such price Smile

by then small amount of profit in USD also good.



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quote originally posted by ahpuiahsan:

Ai yo yo, big sale har....

Citibank went down to beyond USD1.00 last night to USD0.97 and close and USD1.02

AIG went to USD0.33 and close at USD0.35

let's see how they do tonight.....



if you ask me AIG, i no comments on this. prefer citibank. after all, banks are the heart of all businesses around the globe.



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quote originally posted by cookieguy:

just go in cautiously if you want cookie, an investor fundamentalist also join in the fun hahaa...why not at such lo price. Citibank should not collapse, US govt will not allow that.

of course i not using any fundamental analysis or intrinsic biz studies to explore Citigroup, is more like risk-reward, cheaper cost & ermm...a little amount of speculation with projection i believe 10 yrs down the road, i will not see such price

by then small amount of profit in USD also good.



Same sentiment. Too cheap to ignore. Vested long term investment. Smile



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quote originally posted by cookieguy:

if you ask me AIG, i no comments on this. prefer citibank. after all, banks are the heart of all businesses around the globe.



My thought, US govt will not let AIG collapse, the implication is too great.
Smile



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quote originally posted by ahpuiahsan:

My thought, US govt will not let AIG collapse, the implication is too great.




yes I agree. but AIG vs Citigroup, I will choose Citigroup.

I have also vested though Smile but going in cautiously & slowly - my 2 cents thoughts.

btw did you manage to calculate NAV per share for Citigroup? I think if I not wrong, its 50 cents per share. That means after liquidation, we still get some back. Current px, the risk-reward seems worth it Smile



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quote originally posted by cookieguy:

yes I agree. but AIG vs Citigroup, I will choose Citigroup.

I have also vested though but going in cautiously & slowly - my 2 cents thoughts.

btw did you manage to calculate NAV per share for Citigroup? I think if I not wrong, its 50 cents per share. That means after liquidation, we still get some back. Current px, the risk-reward seems worth it



I have not look at NAV or the charts on both stocks. Those technical items are for the market analyst. Not for me. I look at the price and my gut feel. Scared



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quote originally posted by Beri Heng Fan:

I have been telling my grand children otherwise.




Buffett made mistakes too. But did less than anybody else That's why he is richer than anybody else Smile



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yes I agree. but AIG vs Citigroup, I will choose Citigroup.

I have also vested though but going in cautiously & slowly - my 2 cents thoughts.

btw did you manage to calculate NAV per share for Citigroup? I think if I not wrong, its 50 cents per share. That means after liquidation, we still get some back. Current px, the risk-reward seems worth it




me think UNCLE SAM may not let them go UNDER when Markets still reeling from Lehman & Bear Stearns Effects. But Nationalization is a possibility here & the book value no use leh Wink



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I have not look at NAV or the charts on both stocks. Those technical items are for the market analyst. Not for me. I look at the price and my gut feel.




NAV not technical items Smile hehee...

good to know how much we get if really worse case scenario...lol...

but here we have citigroup rebounded after pandit release news Playful



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quote originally posted by cookieguy:

NAV not technical items hehee...

good to know how much we get if really worse case scenario...lol...

but here we have citigroup rebounded after pandit release news



Ooops,

me goondu. Playful

Anyway, the technical rebound is over due. It takes times for the stimulus package to work.
What i am afraid now is another credit crunch (credit cards debt) will cause another freefall. Frown



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quote originally posted by cookieguy:

NAV not technical items hehee...

good to know how much we get if really worse case scenario...lol...

but here we have citigroup rebounded after pandit release news





Lol too.


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quote originally posted by Smart_Punter:

Buffett made mistakes too. But did less than anybody else That's why he is richer than anybody else




He is not on today prices.

Comparatively.

Lets debate on this?

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quote originally posted by ahpuiahsan:

Ooops,

me goondu.

Anyway, the technical rebound is over due. It takes times for the stimulus package to work.
What i am afraid now is another credit crunch (credit cards debt) will cause another freefall.




yeah, if another wave of negative news or corporate companies go tumbling down, then we see banking stocks nosedive again. Or we see another large bank raise rights issue after HSBC to draw fresh capital Smile

if another freefall happens to citigroup, that is ok; after all, our risk-reward is low, considering at $1-$1.10 a piece



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quote originally posted by Beri Heng Fan:

He is not on today prices.

Comparatively.

Lets debate on this?




No debate. agree wit U dat Buffet's too old for the job now Wink

talk about Citi Stocks, think if U want to LONG just do it now! Take oso the PUT @ $ 2.50 Jul if U want to b on safe side in medium term (In my opion, Uptick rule may pass but Mark-to-market rule is no go . a worried thing for the Financials ) if they don't get nationalized in 4 moths time U b a winner !!
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quote originally posted by cookieguy:

yeah, if another wave of negative news or corporate companies go tumbling down, then we see banking stocks nosedive again. Or we see another large bank raise rights issue after HSBC to draw fresh capital

if another freefall happens to citigroup, that is ok; after all, our risk-reward is low, considering at $1-$1.10 a piece



Y

es, Citibank and AIG has been climbing slowly these 2 days.
Tiny profit liao, but will continue to hold for 2-3 years. Smile



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Citibank cross the USD2 mark and AIG hit USD0.98 Wink



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quote originally posted by ahpuiahsan:

Citibank cross the USD2 mark and AIG hit USD0.98




Both soaring high now. Smile





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quote originally posted by LongHuBao:

Both soaring high now.



Yes, slow and steady. Just hope no more bad news. Wink



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AIG break USD1.40 even as the Chairman kana grilled. Scared



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Ooops, pai seh, posted 4 times.

Anyway, AIG was having a strong rebound. Anyone know the reason.



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Citi also break USD3 barrier. Is it recovery time???

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MOre impressive run was Bank of America (BAC). A raise of USD1.40 to break USD7.
Wow, those who bought it at USD2 plus 2 weeks again, now will make a 350% gain.

Scared

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Citi also break USD3 barrier. Is it recovery time???

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This is call a bear trap.

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MOre impressive run was Bank of America (BAC). A raise of USD1.40 to break USD7. Wow, those who bought it at USD2 plus 2 weeks again, now will make a 350% gain.

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Those who bought put options on these symbol maybe wondering what went wrong?







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quote originally posted by Beri Heng Fan:

This is call a bear trap.



Rally in a Bear market.

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quote originally posted by Beri Heng Fan:

Those who bought put options on these symbol maybe wondering what went wrong?



Those who bought the call option will be laughing all the ways to the Bank.



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quote originally posted by ahpuiahsan:



Those who bought the call option will be laughing all the ways to the Bank.

Lol.







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Between Bank of America and Citibank, it seems like BAC is running much more than Citibank.
From a low of USD2.53 run up to a high of USD8.00 for BAC compare to Citibank low of USD0.97 to high of USD3.89

Confused



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Stocks fell sharply Monday as recovery plans from General Motors and Chrysler were rejected by the Obama administration’s autos task force, spurring fears of bankruptcies in the sector.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average was down more than 300 points, and all 30 Dow stocks were lower.

The S&P 500 and Nasdaq were also down about 3 percent.

This comes after stocks logged their third straight up week last week. The Dow ended the week up 21 percent from its recent bottom, the index's fastest recovery of that magnitude since 1938.

General Motors shares tumbled more than 20 percent after the surprise ouster of CEO Rick Wagoner, who was at the helm during the company's rapid decline in the past five years, in exchange for more bailout funds. Wagoner's resignation was requested by former investment banker Steve Rattner, who headed the auto panel.

Auto-parts maker American Axle tumbled 20 percent.

In other bailout news, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner revealed Sunday that the government still has $135-billion pot earmarked for bank bailouts from the original $700 billion TARP money, but wouldn’t confirm whether it will need to ask Congress for more.

Still, bank stocks struggled, with Bank of America down more than 10 percent. Fellow Dow components Citigroup and JPMorgan also declined.

Meanwhile, in Europe, the banking sector suffered more body blows as Swiss bank UBS was expected to announce further writedowns and job cuts and Spain was forced to bail out its first bank, Caja Castilla la Mancha.

The largely negative start to the week will weigh on world leaders as they head to the G20 meeting in London. The meeting is expected to focus on restoring growth to the global economy by the end of 2010, the Financial Times reported quoting a draft communiqué.



Well, is it time to accumulate again? Confused



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With all this bail out will the US currency be cheaper?







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quote originally posted by Beri Heng Fan:

With all this bail out will the US currency be cheaper?





China and Russia have already voice that another currency to replace US as the reserved currency. (For many years, alot of business has been using USD as the currency to import and export)
If another currency (which i think it will take years) is to replace USD, then USD will worth like rupiah. LOL



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Just sold all my Las Vegas Sands stocks at US$ 4.24. Bought all at US$2.20 average. I think there'll be a slight technical correction next week on the market. Now monitoring my HSBC hong kong stocks. My average is at 40...heehee. P.S. remember i did advises fellow investers to 'BUY' STI when it goes down to 1500 points. I invested 100k at this level and i'm selling half of all these 2 days.

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quote originally posted by SKYBULLET007:

Just sold all my Las Vegas Sands stocks at US$ 4.24. Bought all at US$2.20 average. I think there'll be a slight technical correction next week on the market. Now monitoring my HSBC hong kong stocks. My average is at 40...heehee. P.S. remember i did advises fellow investers to 'BUY' STI when it goes down to 1500 points. I invested 100k at this level and i'm selling half of all these 2 days.

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Congratulation on your investment in Spore Market. It is indeed a siao rally in a bear market. Smile



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quote originally posted by ahpuiahsan:

Congratulation on your investment in Spore Market. It is indeed a siao rally in a bear market.




It wouldn't last as a technical correction is coming. That's why i cleared half of my positions. Last nite sold all of my Las Vegas Sands at US$4.24 but earlier it went up to $4.98 though most of the stocks are heading downwards...Now still holding at 4.45.....



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quote originally posted by SKYBULLET007:

It wouldn't last as a technical correction is coming. That's why i cleared half of my positions. Last nite sold all of my Las Vegas Sands at US$4.24 but earlier it went up to $4.98 though most of the stocks are heading downwards...Now still holding at 4.45.....



Either in bull market or bear market, there's always a technical correction due to overbuy or oversold. It depends on how deep is the correction.
I like the US market rather than SGX due to the movement in price in US market is much more faster than Singapore market. (Either up or down)

I am still holding to Citibank bought at average price of USD1.81, but have cleared all my AIG, tiny profit. Smile

I will continue to accumulate when the price goes down, as i feels that the market should be picking up soon once the 1st or 2nd quarter reporting is make.

Good luck to all, Huat ah. Wink



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quote originally posted by company:

I noticed whatever the price you buy bro it gets to as high as as 5 times of its low.

Then it starts to down trend?

What do you think?

I am talking about US speculative stocks like C AIG.



It's always tghe trend in stock market. 3 step upward (Fund starts buying), then 1 step downward (Some fund take abit profit), another 3 step upward (More Fund buying), 1 step downward (earlier fund take profit) another 3 step upward (Investor starts buying), a few steps downward (Funds collect profit, investor kana stuck).

AIG is now 80% owned by US govt and Citi is only about 20 or 30% (if i am not wrong).
People are betting that the Govt wont not let these 2 BIG companies to bankrupt, at least not now, as the implication is too GREAT.




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After Wells Fargo reported about 3 Bil in profit, all Banks ramped up. Especially BAC (Bank of America), from a low of US2.53 on 20 Feb 2009, it ends at US9.55 yesterday. It's a gain of about 277% profit. Scared



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Hi,

My gut feeling tells me that the recent rally is not a true scenario. The stock market went up based on hope that all those stimulant plans will set the economic starting Scared

For this coming week,looking at the following news

1) there wil be major reporting from US and also from Singapore Government
2) asian summit called off
3) US just reported a defect of 1 trillion$ Scared
4) China is hinting that their stimulant is going to show results

There is still no solid evidence that the market is recovering. I am putting my stock profolio building on hold, aiming at UOB and DBS at the moment.

I predict that the STI will not break through 1880 level, and if negative news continues, another sell off is possible Confused



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I am just waiting for the next selloff to come hehehe...

now already we have news of the asian summitt called off, Thailand political crisis, DBS CEO passed away (god bless his soul, vacuum left at the top). Hope more news to come.

lets see what happen in the next few weeks.



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quote originally posted by ahpuiahsan:

Y

es, Citibank and AIG has been climbing slowly these 2 days.
Tiny profit liao, but will continue to hold for 2-3 years.




yes. lets huat together on citigroup Smile good thing we speculate at the right price of $1 odd...lol...

like you on HSBC, i am keen on this but I am waiting for the next selloff which in my opinion, i am anticipating on this.



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quote originally posted by cookieguy:

yes. lets huat together on citigroup good thing we speculate at the right price of $1 odd...lol...

like you on HSBC, i am keen on this but I am waiting for the next selloff which in my opinion, i am anticipating on this.



Yes, i am waiting for the 1st quarter results to be out, then slowly start accumulating when there is selloff.



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Hi ahpuiahsan,

May I know your view of the current market? All bad news and yet the market keep shooting up Scared

Do you recommend buying at this level?

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Hi ahpuiahsan,

May I know your view of the current market? All bad news and yet the market keep shooting up

Do you recommend buying at this level?

Thanks.



Hi Teego,
i also very confused liao. Likewise i said it should be a bear market rally, but look at STI today, simi sai also went up. Those that i keep under pillow at SGD0.01-SGD0.03 all shoot up. I prefer to see how's the result 1st before accumulating.




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This time around is wit Coporate CDs !! Inflow of funds to ride out this feel gd period leh See the S$ appreciation Smile Smile
Me exit GBP & AU$ positions to take profit recenlty (ie. against against suggestion of a pro.) Hold on even better as GBP & AU$ appreciated more Indifferent Indifferent



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quote originally posted by Smart_Punter:

No debate. agree wit U dat Buffet's too old for the job now

talk about Citi Stocks, think if U want to LONG just do it now! Take oso the PUT @ $ 2.50 Jul if U want to b on safe side in medium term (In my opion, Uptick rule may pass but Mark-to-market rule is no go . a worried thing for the Financials ) if they don't get nationalized in 4 moths time U b a winner !!
BTW, I m just a part-timer. seldom come to this forum nowadays. U may not see me reply often




Think those who LONG Citi shul exit b4 Jul & take profit (unless they invested 30C for the PUT option as a cover) Smile Smile



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Bank Stress result to be out on 07 May 2009. Reported that Citi and BAC need 10Bil more for capital injection.

Should i sell or not? Bought at average USD1.81



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07-May 2009 Thursday 10:47 AM (5487 days ago)            #75
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The Months of FEAR are over. Now the Month of GREED ! (people dun want to miss de boat oso join in) Even no profits or dividends for Citi, AIG or alike for a long time to come many retail inventors will still buy (cos of their BRAND NAME & historical price). Difficult for SHORTIES hedge to bring it down tow much now unless Pandit knows something bad that we all don't! Smile Smile



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How does US market dividend works?

Example : ACAS announce dividend with record date 02 Apr 2009 and paydate 27 Apr 2009. Will i get the dividend if i bought on 25 Mar 2009? If yes, when?



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Good!

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Wow, American Capital (ACAS) announced a dividend of USD1.07, which Company in Singapore have announced such a hefty dividend?

(RTTNews) - American Capital Ltd. (ACAS) just announced that its Board of Directors declared a dividend of $1.07 per share payable on August 7, 2009, to stockholders of record as of the close of business on June 22, 2009.



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quote originally posted by ahpuiahsan:

Bank Stress result to be out on 07 May 2009. Reported that Citi and BAC need 10Bil more for capital injection.

Should i sell or not? Bought at average USD1.81




so bro did you sell that time? I sold Citi at 3.93...now waiting for Citi to be below $2.50.....

Meanwhile I am also waiting for GE to be below $10...

All for the purpose of trading...keke...



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quote originally posted by cookieguy:

so bro did you sell that time? I sold Citi at 3.93...now waiting for Citi to be below $2.50.....

Meanwhile I am also waiting for GE to be below $10...

All for the purpose of trading...keke...



I sold some @ US3.43, still holding on for long term, since the profit already covered the cost. Smile



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21-Jul 2009 Tuesday 11:30 PM (5412 days ago)            #81
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any US stock to recommend? Expecially those between USD0.50 to USD1.00



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Congratulation to all who bought into Citibank 1 year back.
Now trading at USD4.835 after reporting Posts Profit. Smile

I am still holding to mine cause if the high is USD27.35, i hope it could reach half of the target, about USD10

I am also holding to American Capital (ACAS) bought at USD1.50, now trading at USD5.65 (note: this stock move up and down very fast, very specualtive)

Trade with care.



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quote originally posted by ahpuiahsan:



I sold some @ US3.43, still holding on for long term, since the profit already covered the cost.




Congrats !!!
mi new in stocks no ideas how to trade in U.S. stocks ,
can elaborate ? thanks




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quote originally posted by ahpuiahsan:

Congratulation to all who bought into Citibank 1 year back.
Now trading at USD4.835 after reporting Posts Profit.

I am still holding to mine cause if the high is USD27.35, i hope it could reach half of the target, about USD10

I am also holding to American Capital (ACAS) bought at USD1.50, now trading at USD5.65 (note: this stock move up and down very fast, very specualtive)

Trade with care.




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